About the Black Dahlia murder?..?

in light of the upcoming Hollywood movie, what do u think abt the whole Black Dahlia murder and mystery?your thoughts abt her tragic death,her life as an actress,her bisexual affairs at tht time-pre 1947 and d fact tht her killer may never b found...

About the Black Dahlia murder?..?
Elizabeth Short, better known as the Black Dahlia, was the victim of an infamous murder in 1947. She was born July 29, 1924 and died January 15, 1947.





Born in Hyde Park, Massachusetts, Short was raised in Medford by her mother, Phoebe Mae. Her father, Cleo, abandoned her and her four sisters in October, 1930.





Troubled by asthma, she spent summers in Medford and winters in Florida. At the age of 19, she went to Vallejo, California, to live with her father, and they moved to Los Angeles in early 1943. She left almost immediately because of an argument with her father and got a job in one of the post exchanges at Camp Cooke, which is now Vandenberg Air Force Base, near Lompoc. She moved to Santa Barbara, where she was arrested September 23, 1943, for underage drinking and was sent back to Medford by juvenile authorities.





For the next few years she resided in various cities in Florida, with occasional trips back to Massachusetts, earning money mostly as a waitress.





In Florida she met Maj. Matthew M. Gordon Jr., who was part of the 2nd Air Commandos and training for deployment in the China Burma India theater of operations. Short told friends that Gordon -- who according to his obituary in the Pueblo, Colo., newspaper, was awarded a Silver Star, Distinguished Flying Cross, Bronze Star, the Air Medal with 15 oak leaf clusters, and Purple Heart -- wrote a letter from India proposing marriage while recovering from an airplane crash he suffered while trying to rescue a downed flier. She accepted his proposal, but he died in a crash on August 10, 1945, before he could return to the U.S. to marry her. Short later embellished this story to say that they were married and had a child that had died. Although Gordon's friends in the air commandos confirm Gordon and Short were engaged, his family subsequently denied any connection once Short was murdered.





She returned to Southern California in July 1946, to see an old boyfriend she met in Florida during the war, Lt. Gordon Fickling, who was stationed in Long Beach. For the six months that remained of her life, she stayed in Southern California, mainly in the Los Angeles area. During this time, she lived in at least a dozen hotels, apartment buildings, rooming houses, and private homes, never staying anywhere for more than a few weeks.





Short was last seen alive on the evening of January 9, 1947, in the lobby of the Biltmore Hotel at 5th Street and Olive in downtown Los Angeles. She was 22 years old.





On January 15, 1947, her body was discovered in a vacant lot of the 3800 block of South Norton Avenue in the Leimert Park neighborhood of Los Angeles, cut in half at the waist and mutilated. She was interred in Mountain View Cemetery in Oakland rather than Medford because her oldest sister lived in Berkeley and because she loved California.





This unsolved murder has been viewed as emblematic of the perception of Los Angeles as a dystopia.
Reply:It happen, it's over and done.
Reply:what about it? the movie isnt going to tell you who killed her. it will


always be unsolved. only two people know who killed her, one is dead %26amp; the killer...
Reply:I was just reading about that the other day, have you seen the crime scene photos, horrible......
Reply:A real life tragedy of a girl who finally made it in the movies: Elizabeth Short was last seen alive in January 1947 at the Biltmore Hotel. Her body was later found, severed. She had a genital defect that rendered her incapable of having standard intercourse and if she had lived longer, she may have been able to develop more fully as a woman. There are many rumors and speculations: 1) knew Marilyn Monroe; 2) loved servicemen; 3) had an affair with George Knowlton, father of Janice Knowlton, author of "Daddy Was the Black Dahlia Killer"; 4) dressed in black and attempted to court various types of men. Her name supposedly evolved from her black hair and all black attire. Some say she was named the Black Dahlia before her murder but others claim the name was applied by journalist to sensationalize the crime. Her body was cut in half, bruised and beaten, and grass had been forced into her vagina, and she had been sodomized after death. The case attracted several false confessions and later surfaced more interest when James Ellroy wrote "The Black Dahlia" in 1987. The case remains unsolved to this date and as the years pass, it may remain unsolved.
Reply:I have been intrigued by it for quite some time. I read a book about it and there have been movies made based on the case and also documentaries like on A%26amp;E. It is astounding that you brought this up. I was recently using blackdahlia as a screen name. I'm looking forward to the movie and will be sure to see it. As far as thoughts, they are no different than my thoughts about all the other true crime stories I have read; thousands of them in fact. I'm an avid reader and find them to be the most interesting. I know, most serial killers like these stories, but I assure you, I am far from that........
Reply:It is surreal that Elizabeth Short became famous in death, something that eluded her in life. She came from Medford, Massachusetts. Somewhere in that town they have a small plaque to commemorate a local girl's sad raise as a poster girl of sorts. Even though some people claimed they knew who killed the Black Dahlia, I doubt the case will ever be solved.





One more thing, Elizabeth lived in a boarding house that was behind the Florentine Gardens. Sadly, the Florentine Gardens may be torn down to make way for a new Fire House. That's progress, I guess.
Reply:I'm a James Ellroy fan so I'm glad it's being made into a movie. I hope it's as good as L.A. Confidential. Ellroy believes that his mother's killer was the same person who killed the Black Dahlia. I don't think we'll ever know who murdered her. Obviously she was an unconventional person with an uncoventional lifestyle. But LA had an "underground" scene for a long time before she came along. In the end she was a human being who came to a tragic end.
Reply:I've read about the story years ago. It's very tragic. The movie seems to be OVER sensationalizing it. There really isn't much info on her or what happened.